Tune into the Advertising Show sometime during the next couple hours to hear me and [possibly] Robin being interviewed about EPIC. We’ll post the archived show when we’re done.

Update: Robin and I each spoke for a good sixteen seconds or so over the course of the two-hour show, most of which went like this:

Host: So this EPIC 2014 business, eh? What’s that about?
Robin: X–
Host: Fascinating. We’ll be back after 10 minutes to dig deeper into that fascinating answer.

Update: Here’s the link. Don’t go too crazy.