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	<title>Comments on: The scale of the pop universe</title>
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		<title>By: Joshua Benton</title>
		<link>http://snarkmarket.com/2011/7568/comment-page-1#comment-71881</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Benton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 12:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric Harvey pulled together sales figures for Pitchfork&#039;s Top 50 Albums of 2011, and quite a few of them are surprisingly low for albums that seemed to have a pretty big share-of-voice this year (Destroyer, Tune-Yards, James Blake, and Saint Vincent, for instance)

http://perpetua.tumblr.com/post/14873014757/u-s-sales-figures-for-pitchforks-top-50-albums-of</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Harvey pulled together sales figures for Pitchfork’s Top 50 Albums of 2011, and quite a few of them are surprisingly low for albums that seemed to have a pretty big share-of-voice this year (Destroyer, Tune-Yards, James Blake, and Saint Vincent, for instance)</p>
<p><a href="http://perpetua.tumblr.com/post/14873014757/u-s-sales-figures-for-pitchforks-top-50-albums-of" rel="nofollow">http://perpetua.tumblr.com/post/14873014757/u-s-sales-figures-for-pitchforks-top-50-albums-of</a></p>
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		<title>By: john ratcliffe-lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>john ratcliffe-lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this made me think of this:  http://www.verysmallarray.com/?p=1322</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this made me think of this:  <a href="http://www.verysmallarray.com/?p=1322" rel="nofollow">http://www.verysmallarray.com/?p=1322</a></p>
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		<title>By: Justin Pickard</title>
		<link>http://snarkmarket.com/2011/7568/comment-page-1#comment-69198</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Pickard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 14:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UK Christmas music charts are a bit borked at the best of times, with the general public increasingly approaching it as a really low-bandwidth communicative medium for brodacsting the public mood...

That said, this year&#039;s #4 was Alex Day, an unsigned twentysomething YouTube vlogger, member of an all-vlogger Doctor Who-themed rock band, who seems to have found a way of transmuting upbeat charisma into advertising revenue. All the money from sales of this track went to charity.

Did you see &lt;a href=&quot;http://neojaponisme.com/2011/11/28/the-great-shift-in-japanese-pop-culture-part-one/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this piece&lt;/a&gt; on Japanese consumer culture after 10-20 years of economic stagnation? Essentially, the argument is that, in a time of crisis, most people cut back on their spending on media, culture and fashion. Those who continue buying are the rabid fans, for whom consumption and collecting constitutes part of their identity. And with &lt;em&gt;those&lt;/em&gt; sales informing the future constitution of pop culture, things quickly get very weird indeed.

And we&#039;re next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UK Christmas music charts are a bit borked at the best of times, with the general public increasingly approaching it as a really low-bandwidth communicative medium for brodacsting the public mood…</p>
<p>That said, this year’s #4 was Alex Day, an unsigned twentysomething YouTube vlogger, member of an all-vlogger Doctor Who-themed rock band, who seems to have found a way of transmuting upbeat charisma into advertising revenue. All the money from sales of this track went to charity.</p>
<p>Did you see <a href="http://neojaponisme.com/2011/11/28/the-great-shift-in-japanese-pop-culture-part-one/" rel="nofollow">this piece</a> on Japanese consumer culture after 10–20 years of economic stagnation? Essentially, the argument is that, in a time of crisis, most people cut back on their spending on media, culture and fashion. Those who continue buying are the rabid fans, for whom consumption and collecting constitutes part of their identity. And with <em>those</em> sales informing the future constitution of pop culture, things quickly get very weird indeed.</p>
<p>And we’re next.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Sloan</title>
		<link>http://snarkmarket.com/2011/7568/comment-page-1#comment-69150</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Sloan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I agree. With a Kickstarter project, even a very successful one, it seems like you reach, engage and delight your peeps... and &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; your peeps.

By contrast, any corporate publisher/distributor, even a bad one, is pretty good at delivering that &quot;ambience&quot;—getting new content out into broader media, booking the Terry Gross interview, getting the song played on Grey&#039;s Anatomy, etc.

So yes: I think this is exactly the challenge! I mean, should a good Kickstarter project set aside part of its budget for... professional PR? That seems dissonant, somehow. But is there an effective alternative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I agree. With a Kickstarter project, even a very successful one, it seems like you reach, engage and delight your peeps… and <i>only</i> your peeps.</p>
<p>By contrast, any corporate publisher/distributor, even a bad one, is pretty good at delivering that “ambience”—getting new content out into broader media, booking the Terry Gross interview, getting the song played on Grey’s Anatomy, etc.</p>
<p>So yes: I think this is exactly the challenge! I mean, should a good Kickstarter project set aside part of its budget for… professional PR? That seems dissonant, somehow. But is there an effective alternative?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://snarkmarket.com/2011/7568/comment-page-1#comment-69143</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... Because it also makes ME wonder: what kinds of analogues might we draw between the kind of amplification (and attendant monetization) afforded a pop song and a smaller self-publishing experiment. 

Louie CK is an interesting example, because he obviously has a fan base built from TV &amp; other big media, but that first big wave of downloads was overwhelmingly driven by the Internet.  And then he goes on TV to promote it: Jay Leno, Jimmy Fallon, etc., without just the special &amp; the idea behind it but this story of how well it&#039;s doing. And he basically doubles it. (There&#039;s a lot of momentum there.)

If you think about New Liberal Arts, that has an audience &amp; awareness about it that WAY outstrips the number of copies we sold. (And yeah, we gave away PDFs for free. But still!)

I think about this whole idea of objects of attention, which I&#039;ve written about but can&#039;t link to here because I&#039;m tapping on my phone. The Clay Shirky idea that &quot;nobody has ever appeared on Terry Gross who has not just written a book.&quot; (Louis CK was also on Terry Gross.) And that awareness creates a feedback loop that sells more copies, but maybe even more importantly, makes more opportunities possible, for you to try your next thing, &amp; the thing after that. 

How do we amplify these projects? How do we keep them echoing like Adele, even in the ears of people who never consciously stopped to listen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm… Because it also makes ME wonder: what kinds of analogues might we draw between the kind of amplification (and attendant monetization) afforded a pop song and a smaller self-publishing experiment. </p>
<p>Louie CK is an interesting example, because he obviously has a fan base built from TV &amp; other big media, but that first big wave of downloads was overwhelmingly driven by the Internet.  And then he goes on TV to promote it: Jay Leno, Jimmy Fallon, etc., without just the special &amp; the idea behind it but this story of how well it’s doing. And he basically doubles it. (There’s a lot of momentum there.)</p>
<p>If you think about New Liberal Arts, that has an audience &amp; awareness about it that WAY outstrips the number of copies we sold. (And yeah, we gave away PDFs for free. But still!)</p>
<p>I think about this whole idea of objects of attention, which I’ve written about but can’t link to here because I’m tapping on my phone. The Clay Shirky idea that “nobody has ever appeared on Terry Gross who has not just written a book.” (Louis CK was also on Terry Gross.) And that awareness creates a feedback loop that sells more copies, but maybe even more importantly, makes more opportunities possible, for you to try your next thing, &amp; the thing after that. </p>
<p>How do we amplify these projects? How do we keep them echoing like Adele, even in the ears of people who never consciously stopped to listen?</p>
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