Comments on: It’s not the echo, it’s the chamber http://snarkmarket.com/2011/6927 The stomping grounds of Tim Carmody, Robin Sloan and Matt Thompson. It's a long-running conversation about media, journalism, technology, cities, culture, design, books, music, movies, the future and the past. Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:20:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Adam Rothstein http://snarkmarket.com/2011/6927/comment-page-1#comment-31089 Adam Rothstein Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:01:00 +0000 http://snarkmarket.com/?p=6927#comment-31089 It took a few days for this to occur to me, but it would seem notably obvious, and yet, importantly undersaid. "...ask some friends to simultaneously search WIKIPEDIA for a controversial term like gun control or abortion..." There. That's the non-biased resource he meant to reference. As they said on the Internet, 'fixed that for him'. It took a few days for this to occur to me, but it would seem notably obvious, and yet, importantly undersaid.

“…ask some friends to simultaneously search WIKIPEDIA for a controversial term like gun control or abortion…”

There. That’s the non-biased resource he meant to reference. As they said on the Internet, ‘fixed that for him’.

]]> By: mark evertz http://snarkmarket.com/2011/6927/comment-page-1#comment-30614 mark evertz Wed, 01 Jun 2011 19:30:30 +0000 http://snarkmarket.com/?p=6927#comment-30614 Love this discussion but whenever anyone lives too much in one camp or the other I always find myself asking "Who are we talking about?" and "What Are We Talking About?" All of the talk of filter failure and filter bubbles bad or good, is without context. As a former news reporter, I was a knowledge glutton who pigged out on everything I could on a given topic from a variety of perspectives in an effort to draw a more holistic picture (ignore my own personal filters or biases for a minute). In that sense, maybe filters are bad. As they would be for any wayward voter to only drink from the Fox News firehose in their effort to get a greater understanding of a political issue. But in a professional environment, I want my lawyer, my doctor, my pharmacist, even my favorite company that builds the things I absolutely must buy, to be laser focused on the knowledge streams, aka filters, that can keep me out of jail, heal me when I'm sick, medicate me when I'm not, and/or make me something that makes my life easier to manage. I want the people I depend on in this way to live in these "bubbles" so they don't get distracted by fads or false hopes. Filters for businesses are vital for staying on top of your areas of expertise, your competitors, and the needs of your customers and your prospects. Without them, we're digital cavemen always in hunter/gatherer mode. Check out today's post "The current Content Filter Debate Lacks Context" by @charliedavidson here: http://bit.ly/kddDWx . Nice work....keep the snark snarky. Mark Love this discussion but whenever anyone lives too much in one camp or the other I always find myself asking “Who are we talking about?” and “What Are We Talking About?” All of the talk of filter failure and filter bubbles bad or good, is without context.

As a former news reporter, I was a knowledge glutton who pigged out on everything I could on a given topic from a variety of perspectives in an effort to draw a more holistic picture (ignore my own personal filters or biases for a minute). In that sense, maybe filters are bad. As they would be for any wayward voter to only drink from the Fox News firehose in their effort to get a greater understanding of a political issue.

But in a professional environment, I want my lawyer, my doctor, my pharmacist, even my favorite company that builds the things I absolutely must buy, to be laser focused on the knowledge streams, aka filters, that can keep me out of jail, heal me when I’m sick, medicate me when I’m not, and/or make me something that makes my life easier to manage. I want the people I depend on in this way to live in these “bubbles” so they don’t get distracted by fads or false hopes.

Filters for businesses are vital for staying on top of your areas of expertise, your competitors, and the needs of your customers and your prospects. Without them, we’re digital cavemen always in hunter/gatherer mode. Check out today’s post “The current Content Filter Debate Lacks Context” by @charliedavidson here: http://bit.ly/kddDWx .
Nice work.…keep the snark snarky.
Mark

]]> By: Daniel Bachhuber http://snarkmarket.com/2011/6927/comment-page-1#comment-30545 Daniel Bachhuber Wed, 01 Jun 2011 01:42:16 +0000 http://snarkmarket.com/?p=6927#comment-30545 What's that phrase? Something like, "two anecdotes don't make a fact"? I think it needs to be updated to, "telling a story at TED doesn't make it science." What’s that phrase? Something like, “two anecdotes don’t make a fact”? I think it needs to be updated to, “telling a story at TED doesn’t make it science.”

]]> By: Grant Barrett http://snarkmarket.com/2011/6927/comment-page-1#comment-30537 Grant Barrett Wed, 01 Jun 2011 00:09:25 +0000 http://snarkmarket.com/?p=6927#comment-30537 Two things related to small parts of this come to mind: One, being social media friends with coworkers, family, and friends brings me into constant contact with opinions (stated or linked) that are contrary to mine and with new things I did not already know or know about. I keep some of them on my friend rolls just for that purpose. Two, those very people represent a community. I would say the that necessary friction is between, on one side, filtering enough so that the information flow is manageable, appropriate, and has a feeling of community, and, on the other, leaving the filters loose enough so that the information flow is surprising, accretive (as opposed to duplicative), and provocative. Two things related to small parts of this come to mind:

One, being social media friends with coworkers, family, and friends brings me into constant contact with opinions (stated or linked) that are contrary to mine and with new things I did not already know or know about. I keep some of them on my friend rolls just for that purpose.

Two, those very people represent a community.

I would say the that necessary friction is between, on one side, filtering enough so that the information flow is manageable, appropriate, and has a feeling of community, and, on the other, leaving the filters loose enough so that the information flow is surprising, accretive (as opposed to duplicative), and provocative.

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