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		<title>By: Matt P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think another potential revolution (or at least evolution) worth tracing is the audibility of text. Starting from the medieval custom of reading aloud, moving to modern silent reading, to the spread of the audiobook and automated text-to-speech, we&#039;ve seen vast changes in the way reading and hearing are linked or divorced.

Another overlooked candidate for a revolution: punctuation! Thank the copyists of the Christian bible and Aldus Manutius if you&#039;ve ever used an initial capital, a semicolon, a comma, period, or parenthesis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think another potential revolution (or at least evolution) worth tracing is the audibility of text. Starting from the medieval custom of reading aloud, moving to modern silent reading, to the spread of the audiobook and automated text-to-speech, we’ve seen vast changes in the way reading and hearing are linked or divorced.</p>
<p>Another overlooked candidate for a revolution: punctuation! Thank the copyists of the Christian bible and Aldus Manutius if you’ve ever used an initial capital, a semicolon, a comma, period, or parenthesis.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://snarkmarket.com/2010/6155/comment-page-1#comment-13178</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen comparisons with programming-language literacy and human-language literacy elsewhere, too. There&#039;s some interesting things to poke at there: overlap in the &quot;language affects how you think&quot; (or construct problems) zone, and the way choosing ease-of-readability or allowing multiple ways of phrasing the same thing becomes a kind of cultural value.

Unfortunately, actual literacy in writing code is a less common skill than I wish. I think everyone would benefit from more people knowing how to write software. (Code is not that hard. Really! Except when it is, but that happens with words too.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve seen comparisons with programming-language literacy and human-language literacy elsewhere, too. There’s some interesting things to poke at there: overlap in the “language affects how you think” (or construct problems) zone, and the way choosing ease-of-readability or allowing multiple ways of phrasing the same thing becomes a kind of cultural value.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, actual literacy in writing code is a less common skill than I wish. I think everyone would benefit from more people knowing how to write software. (Code is not that hard. Really! Except when it is, but that happens with words too.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Carmody</title>
		<link>http://snarkmarket.com/2010/6155/comment-page-1#comment-13175</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Carmody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I&#039;ve been thinking about a lot lately is the computational boomerang. (I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s a real thing, but that&#039;s what I&#039;m calling it right now.) It goes like this:

1. As computer languages got more and more complex, they got farther from pure mechanical instructions and closer to human-readable semantic languages. 

2. So now we&#039;ve got all this text that&#039;s designed to be read ONLY by computers. And it&#039;s real text. Not like, &quot;oh, it&#039;s a kind of sign system that&#039;s similar to our text, in a family-resemblance kind of way.&quot; If anything, it&#039;s more structurally sophisticated and (definitely) more precise than our natural languages.

3. But, in what turns out to be a new iteration of the literacy revolution, more and more people can actually sight-read this text designed to be read by a computer. We can actually make jokes with each other using hashtags and phony HTML tags and UNIX commands. 

That is special. That is like climbing up on the mountains or getting into an airplane and photographing the Nazca lines -- signs only the gods were supposed to see. And it&#039;s all the more special because it&#039;s so ordinary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I’ve been thinking about a lot lately is the computational boomerang. (I don’t know if that’s a real thing, but that’s what I’m calling it right now.) It goes like this:</p>
<p>1. As computer languages got more and more complex, they got farther from pure mechanical instructions and closer to human-readable semantic languages. </p>
<p>2. So now we’ve got all this text that’s designed to be read ONLY by computers. And it’s real text. Not like, “oh, it’s a kind of sign system that’s similar to our text, in a family-resemblance kind of way.” If anything, it’s more structurally sophisticated and (definitely) more precise than our natural languages.</p>
<p>3. But, in what turns out to be a new iteration of the literacy revolution, more and more people can actually sight-read this text designed to be read by a computer. We can actually make jokes with each other using hashtags and phony HTML tags and UNIX commands. </p>
<p>That is special. That is like climbing up on the mountains or getting into an airplane and photographing the Nazca lines — signs only the gods were supposed to see. And it’s all the more special because it’s so ordinary.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Sloan</title>
		<link>http://snarkmarket.com/2010/6155/comment-page-1#comment-13172</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Sloan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Along those lines, I really liked Tim&#039;s explication of &quot;intensive&quot; vs. &quot;extensive&quot; reading -- a world where you read ten books over and over vs. a world where you read a thousand books once. What are some other flavors? And perhaps some new flavors: a world where you don&#039;t read ANY book completely, but rather bits &amp; pieces of a hundred thousand books?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Along those lines, I really liked Tim’s explication of “intensive” vs. “extensive” reading — a world where you read ten books over and over vs. a world where you read a thousand books once. What are some other flavors? And perhaps some new flavors: a world where you don’t read ANY book completely, but rather bits &amp; pieces of a hundred thousand books?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://snarkmarket.com/2010/6155/comment-page-1#comment-13170</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On reflection, here&#039;s the &lt;em&gt;actual&lt;/em&gt; sentence wherein Tim summarizes his dissertation: &quot;Eventually, papermakers were able to invent a variety of mechanical and chemical techniques engineer decent-quality paper out of pulped wood, a supply that (unlike cloth rags) appeared limitless.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On reflection, here’s the <em>actual</em> sentence wherein Tim summarizes his dissertation: “Eventually, papermakers were able to invent a variety of mechanical and chemical techniques engineer decent-quality paper out of pulped wood, a supply that (unlike cloth rags) appeared limitless.”</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://snarkmarket.com/2010/6155/comment-page-1#comment-13169</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it were anyone else, I&#039;d be prompted to find some sort of label for the recent spate of wonderful intellectual outbursts from our dear Tim. (&lt;em&gt;I was an early fan of Tim&#039;s work, since well before the time he was creating the Bookfuturist Cycle.&lt;/em&gt;) But I&#039;ve seen enough of his writing and thinking over enough years to understand that it&#039;s just Tim, unshackled. Quite nice.

In this post, I especially like how Tim stuffed his dissertation into a throwaway sentence: &quot;Let&#039;s just say that what the things we read are made out of has always been very, very important.&quot; That was a nice touch. Such depth this man has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it were anyone else, I’d be prompted to find some sort of label for the recent spate of wonderful intellectual outbursts from our dear Tim. (<em>I was an early fan of Tim’s work, since well before the time he was creating the Bookfuturist Cycle.</em>) But I’ve seen enough of his writing and thinking over enough years to understand that it’s just Tim, unshackled. Quite nice.</p>
<p>In this post, I especially like how Tim stuffed his dissertation into a throwaway sentence: “Let’s just say that what the things we read are made out of has always been very, very important.” That was a nice touch. Such depth this man has.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://snarkmarket.com/2010/6155/comment-page-1#comment-13165</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend who studies lit once mentioned to me the idea that there are different sorts of readers: people who read for pleasure, for edification, and so on, and thus what we choose to read isn&#039;t just an issue of personal taste, but also its function. (Possibly something we&#039;re usually blind to, assuming that our own motivations for reading match everyone else&#039;s.) I&#039;d be interested in how that has changed over time, the function of reading as different types of texts and formats have become available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend who studies lit once mentioned to me the idea that there are different sorts of readers: people who read for pleasure, for edification, and so on, and thus what we choose to read isn’t just an issue of personal taste, but also its function. (Possibly something we’re usually blind to, assuming that our own motivations for reading match everyone else’s.) I’d be interested in how that has changed over time, the function of reading as different types of texts and formats have become available.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://snarkmarket.com/2010/6155/comment-page-1#comment-13164</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome, I support these follow-up post ideas. And I think paper is interesting, but that may be a factor of having too many craft hobbies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome, I support these follow-up post ideas. And I think paper is interesting, but that may be a factor of having too many craft hobbies.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Carmody</title>
		<link>http://snarkmarket.com/2010/6155/comment-page-1#comment-13163</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Carmody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me just add, too, that I don&#039;t even know if these would be my actual Top 10 reading revolutions, even in the West. I haven&#039;t even thought it out that far. These are just the top ten things that scholars &amp; historians have talked about as being reading revolutions. 

This raises the question: which revolutions are genuinely missing here? Paperbacks, linotype, maybe one of the bigger categories covers those. What isn&#039;t even conceived of in this list? What&#039;s the next Innis- or Benjamin-like constellation to be found in the data?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me just add, too, that I don’t even know if these would be my actual Top 10 reading revolutions, even in the West. I haven’t even thought it out that far. These are just the top ten things that scholars &amp; historians have talked about as being reading revolutions. </p>
<p>This raises the question: which revolutions are genuinely missing here? Paperbacks, linotype, maybe one of the bigger categories covers those. What isn’t even conceived of in this list? What’s the next Innis– or Benjamin-like constellation to be found in the data?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://snarkmarket.com/2010/6155/comment-page-1#comment-13162</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is absolutely true. I tried to indicate that a little bit by pointing out that Gutenberg introduced movable type &lt;em&gt;to Europe&lt;/em&gt;, that Hebrew and Arabic are revolutionary scripts. 

I very quickly glossed over cloth paper, which was invented in China, perfected in the Arab world, then took off with print in Europe. But I was worried that nobody would want to hear me blather on about paper. I&#039;d totally do it. 

I cut out a whole section about vertical reading in Chinese &amp; Japanese, and early psychological investigations into reading (Stanislas Dehaene and Nick Carr didn&#039;t kick down that door, you know.)

(Hmm -- supplementary post: reading/writing revolutions in Asia and the Americas. Snarkproject!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is absolutely true. I tried to indicate that a little bit by pointing out that Gutenberg introduced movable type <em>to Europe</em>, that Hebrew and Arabic are revolutionary scripts. </p>
<p>I very quickly glossed over cloth paper, which was invented in China, perfected in the Arab world, then took off with print in Europe. But I was worried that nobody would want to hear me blather on about paper. I’d totally do it. </p>
<p>I cut out a whole section about vertical reading in Chinese &amp; Japanese, and early psychological investigations into reading (Stanislas Dehaene and Nick Carr didn’t kick down that door, you know.)</p>
<p>(Hmm — supplementary post: reading/writing revolutions in Asia and the Americas. Snarkproject!)</p>
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