Comments on: Their hair is clean; their shoes are on http://snarkmarket.com/2010/5573 The stomping grounds of Tim Carmody, Robin Sloan and Matt Thompson. It's a long-running conversation about media, journalism, technology, cities, culture, design, books, music, movies, the future and the past. Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:20:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Valerie http://snarkmarket.com/2010/5573/comment-page-1#comment-10546 Valerie Thu, 13 May 2010 02:15:38 +0000 http://snarkmarket.com/?p=5573#comment-10546 Oh-oh! Like next time, post all the submissions (like the ashcloud tales) and let readers vote and rank the top pieces. Then pull from that to put together the magazine layout. Get a magazine where web feedback influences what gets printed. You'd get a more diverse power base, it would save the editors reading all 1500 submissions but they'd still have the challenge of trying to make something cohesive. And real-time feedback for the contributors, seeing how they place rather than just the Monday morning in-or-out. Could be cool... Oh-oh! Like next time, post all the submissions (like the ashcloud tales) and let readers vote and rank the top pieces. Then pull from that to put together the magazine layout. Get a magazine where web feedback influences what gets printed. You’d get a more diverse power base, it would save the editors reading all 1500 submissions but they’d still have the challenge of trying to make something cohesive. And real-time feedback for the contributors, seeing how they place rather than just the Monday morning in-or-out. Could be cool…

]]> By: Valerie http://snarkmarket.com/2010/5573/comment-page-1#comment-10545 Valerie Thu, 13 May 2010 01:38:46 +0000 http://snarkmarket.com/?p=5573#comment-10545 Is there a way to develop the website to include more of the submissions -- postings of the nearly-made-its, the made-me-laugh-stuff-out-my-noses, the totally-didn't-fit-but-awesomes? Something more interactive the contributors and readers can get involved in? The weekend was a really exciting collaborative endeavor, but it did leave the contributors who didn't get in feeling like they fell off the party train. It'd be nice to tie a caboose on that. Is there a way to develop the website to include more of the submissions — postings of the nearly-made-its, the made-me-laugh-stuff-out-my-noses, the totally-didn’t-fit-but-awesomes? Something more interactive the contributors and readers can get involved in?

The weekend was a really exciting collaborative endeavor, but it did leave the contributors who didn’t get in feeling like they fell off the party train. It’d be nice to tie a caboose on that.

]]> By: Robin http://snarkmarket.com/2010/5573/comment-page-1#comment-10544 Robin Thu, 13 May 2010 01:19:09 +0000 http://snarkmarket.com/?p=5573#comment-10544 I totally agree with you, and I think the answer is: yes, there is a way to make this cool & interesting & useful for everybody who submits, not just the people who make it into the mag. Not sure what it is yet! But I think it's an interesting & important design challenge -- and a totally solve-able one. I totally agree with you, and I think the answer is: yes, there is a way to make this cool & interesting & useful for everybody who submits, not just the people who make it into the mag. Not sure what it is yet! But I think it’s an interesting & important design challenge — and a totally solve-able one.

]]> By: Gavin http://snarkmarket.com/2010/5573/comment-page-1#comment-10543 Gavin Wed, 12 May 2010 23:50:37 +0000 http://snarkmarket.com/?p=5573#comment-10543 Okay, if there were only 1500 submissions, then there are more than 1400 people with described experience, not nearly 6000. Point remains. Okay, if there were only 1500 submissions, then there are more than 1400 people with described experience, not nearly 6000. Point remains.

]]> By: Gavin http://snarkmarket.com/2010/5573/comment-page-1#comment-10542 Gavin Wed, 12 May 2010 23:49:03 +0000 http://snarkmarket.com/?p=5573#comment-10542 You know, I've participated in the "many submissions, many rejections" publication world for so long that I don't really want to spend much time criticizing that aspect of the magazine. But at the same time, there are nearly 6,000 people whose experience with the magazine was "I sent something in, and then on Monday I found out I didn't get in when I looked at the contributor's list." Is there a way to make a project like this genuinely participatory for that mass of people who wanted to contribute, and not just for the intrepid editors and the large handful of people whose work got in? I'm not saying I want a 6,000 page magazine. But maybe a hundred 48 Hour magazines? Maybe ask that everyone who wants to contribute be willing to be an editor and assign groups to create a variety of magazines? Maybe this is all snark because I didn't get in, but as cool a product as issue zero is, doesn't the editorial model feel very 1.0? You know, I’ve participated in the “many submissions, many rejections” publication world for so long that I don’t really want to spend much time criticizing that aspect of the magazine. But at the same time, there are nearly 6,000 people whose experience with the magazine was “I sent something in, and then on Monday I found out I didn’t get in when I looked at the contributor’s list.”

Is there a way to make a project like this genuinely participatory for that mass of people who wanted to contribute, and not just for the intrepid editors and the large handful of people whose work got in? I’m not saying I want a 6,000 page magazine. But maybe a hundred 48 Hour magazines? Maybe ask that everyone who wants to contribute be willing to be an editor and assign groups to create a variety of magazines?

Maybe this is all snark because I didn’t get in, but as cool a product as issue zero is, doesn’t the editorial model feel very 1.0?

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