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	<title>Comments on: The Perpetual History of Covert Wonder</title>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 17:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earlier today, &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/robinsloan/status/1689031018&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Robin twittered&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;You know what I love? Video iChat. I realize that no longer counts as high-tech. Feels like the future sorta snuck up on us.&quot; And I replied, &quot;totally. It&#039;s like computers beating us at chess. Once it happened, it lost its threshold power. Next: flying cars.&quot;

This, I think, is KK&#039;s primary insight into the singularity (or whatever) -- not that these changes aren&#039;t big deals, because they are. It&#039;s that we can only tell THAT they are big deals from a distance, either in the future or the past. When we&#039;re in them, they&#039;re both too big and too gradual -- and we are too busy, myopic, or obnoxious -- for it to actually appear to us.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier today, <a href="http://twitter.com/robinsloan/status/1689031018" rel="nofollow">Robin twittered</a>: “You know what I love? Video iChat. I realize that no longer counts as high-tech. Feels like the future sorta snuck up on us.” And I replied, “totally. It’s like computers beating us at chess. Once it happened, it lost its threshold power. Next: flying cars.”</p>
<p>This, I think, is KK’s primary insight into the singularity (or whatever) — not that these changes aren’t big deals, because they are. It’s that we can only tell THAT they are big deals from a distance, either in the future or the past. When we’re in them, they’re both too big and too gradual — and we are too busy, myopic, or obnoxious — for it to actually appear to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 06:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hubris is a funny thing. Great points made here. Thanks for this.

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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 16:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely 100% agree. (Especially b/c this book I finished recently, &quot;Barbarians and Angels,&quot; makes precisely that point very persuasively.)

I actually tend to be pretty sympathetic to the Kurzweilian &quot;things are getting uniquely crazy&quot; argument, but I find that sympathy fading lately. Maybe part of it is hanging out here &amp; having these conversations about history &amp; media. It seems credible to me now that, sure, biotech is a big deal -- technology to literally tinker with our human-ness. But writing was (maybe?) just as big a deal, and it too tinkered with our human-ness. And so on.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely 100% agree. (Especially b/c this book I finished recently, “Barbarians and Angels,” makes precisely that point very persuasively.)</p>
<p>I actually tend to be pretty sympathetic to the Kurzweilian “things are getting uniquely crazy” argument, but I find that sympathy fading lately. Maybe part of it is hanging out here &amp; having these conversations about history &amp; media. It seems credible to me now that, sure, biotech is a big deal — technology to literally tinker with our human-ness. But writing was (maybe?) just as big a deal, and it too tinkered with our human-ness. And so on.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 15:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always assumed that the &quot;now is the turning point&quot; mentality was a kind of chronological imperialism. Every body during the &quot;dark Ages&quot; (other than the Elites -who write the histories) was materially better off than when they were paying their taxes to Rome. Nobody was walking around saying &quot;I&#039;ll be so glad when the dark ages are over&quot; they were getting on with their lives- which pretty much were marginally better than their parents lives.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve always assumed that the “now is the turning point” mentality was a kind of chronological imperialism. Every body during the “dark Ages” (other than the Elites –who write the histories) was materially better off than when they were paying their taxes to Rome. Nobody was walking around saying “I’ll be so glad when the dark ages are over” they were getting on with their lives– which pretty much were marginally better than their parents lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://snarkmarket.com/2009/2861/comment-page-1#comment-4978</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 11:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Covert wonder.&quot; What a great phrase. If I start an ad agency, I&#039;m calling it &quot;Covert Wonder.&quot; (P.S. I am not starting an ad agency.)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Covert wonder.” What a great phrase. If I start an ad agency, I’m calling it “Covert Wonder.” (P.S. I am not starting an ad agency.)</p>
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